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The Holy Grail of RIAs: Why Organic Growth Matters Most

The Holy Grail of RIAs: Why Organic Growth Matters Most

The Holy Grail of RIAs: Why Organic Growth Matters Most

Kyle Van Pelt

October 7, 2025


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Episode 113

On this week's episode of Next Mile, I sit down with John Bunch, CEO of Allworth Financial. With over 30 years in financial services, John has guided firms through big transitions, from founder succession and acquisitions to private equity cycles and scaling operations, while preserving their culture.

This week, we discuss leading Allworth into its third generation. John reflects on lessons from Schwab and other founder-led firms, and how Allworth is balancing organic growth with strategic acquisitions. He explains the importance of culture, integration, and advisor support, while also detailing the firm's investments in tax services and AI innovation. From client-centric models to the future role of advisors as coaches, John offers an inside look at building enduring growth in a rapidly changing RIA landscape.

Key Takeaways

The holy grail in this industry is organic growth. Acquisitions help, but building scalable, client-centered growth engines is what drives long-term value.

Don't focus on what you spend on growth. Focus on the payback. If a channel is working, invest more in it. A supportive board will always back a strategy with a good return on investment.

Embrace AI now or get left behind. Firms that fail to strategically adopt AI will be at a disadvantage. Start experimenting and integrating it into your operations, from client service to advisor dashboards, and see how it can help you get more insights.

Quotes

"The holy grail in this industry is organic growth. That's what drives valuations. And if you get that right, you're building a scalable business for the future." ~ John Bunch

"If you're not willing to evolve your business and elevate how you meet with your clients, you're going to be in a bit of trouble. The winners in the long term in this industry are going to be the folks who can grow organically." ~ John Bunch

"Advisors will be more like counselors and coaches on a wide variety of things than they will be on experts on cash flow or investments. And the firms that actually help their advisors move in that direction are going to be the winners." ~ John Bunch

Links

John Bunch on LinkedIn | Allworth Financial |Pat McClain |Scott Hanson |Darla Sipolt |Charles Schwab |Jump AI |Atomic Habits

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Milemarker.co | Kyle on LinkedIn | Jud on LinkedIn

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—Kyle Van Pelt

Next Mile Podcast

The Holy Grail of RIAs: Why Organic Growth Matters Most

Kyle Van Pelt

October 7, 2025


Listen to this week's episode.

Episode 113

On this week's episode of Next Mile, I sit down with John Bunch, CEO of Allworth Financial. With over 30 years in financial services, John has guided firms through big transitions, from founder succession and acquisitions to private equity cycles and scaling operations, while preserving their culture.

This week, we discuss leading Allworth into its third generation. John reflects on lessons from Schwab and other founder-led firms, and how Allworth is balancing organic growth with strategic acquisitions. He explains the importance of culture, integration, and advisor support, while also detailing the firm's investments in tax services and AI innovation. From client-centric models to the future role of advisors as coaches, John offers an inside look at building enduring growth in a rapidly changing RIA landscape.

Key Takeaways

The holy grail in this industry is organic growth. Acquisitions help, but building scalable, client-centered growth engines is what drives long-term value.

Don't focus on what you spend on growth. Focus on the payback. If a channel is working, invest more in it. A supportive board will always back a strategy with a good return on investment.

Embrace AI now or get left behind. Firms that fail to strategically adopt AI will be at a disadvantage. Start experimenting and integrating it into your operations, from client service to advisor dashboards, and see how it can help you get more insights.

Quotes

"The holy grail in this industry is organic growth. That's what drives valuations. And if you get that right, you're building a scalable business for the future." ~ John Bunch

"If you're not willing to evolve your business and elevate how you meet with your clients, you're going to be in a bit of trouble. The winners in the long term in this industry are going to be the folks who can grow organically." ~ John Bunch

"Advisors will be more like counselors and coaches on a wide variety of things than they will be on experts on cash flow or investments. And the firms that actually help their advisors move in that direction are going to be the winners." ~ John Bunch

Links

John Bunch on LinkedIn | Allworth Financial |Pat McClain |Scott Hanson |Darla Sipolt |Charles Schwab |Jump AI |Atomic Habits

Connect with Our Hosts

Milemarker.co | Kyle on LinkedIn | Jud on LinkedIn

Subscribe and Stay in Touch

Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube

While there, please don't forget to Download, Like, and Subscribe.

If you'd like to schedule a time to talk with me about anything we cover on our podcast or Milemarker, click here for 15 minutes.

—Kyle Van Pelt

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DISCLAIMER: All product names, logos, and brands are property of their respective owners in the U.S. and other countries, and are used for identification purposes only. Use of these names, logos, and brands does not imply affiliation or endorsement.
© 2026 Milemarker Inc. All rights reserved
DISCLAIMER: All product names, logos, and brands are property of their respective owners in the U.S. and other countries, and are used for identification purposes only. Use of these names, logos, and brands does not imply affiliation or endorsement.
© 2026 Milemarker Inc. All rights reserved
DISCLAIMER: All product names, logos, and brands are property of their respective owners in the U.S. and other countries, and are used for identification purposes only. Use of these names, logos, and brands does not imply affiliation or endorsement.